User talk:Sarahgregory
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Notes on Wiki
Portals vs Topics vs Categories vs Taxonomy
• Essentially, they are all the same thing.
This is how Wikipedia suggests categories should be:
For us, the definitions are as follows:
Taxonony: This is the “ideal framework” that (once it is finalised) will not change. We will base the wikiprogress loosely on these categories, although there have needed to be some minor adaptions. We have kept the top-level taxonomy areas as our top-level “topics portal”. We have also kept the second level of the taxonomy as subcategories of the topics portal. However, we have added a few subcategories where it was not immediately evident how they fit into the taxonomy framework (eg, “Children” was not immediately evident in the taxonomy so we have added it as a new subcategory under the top-level “Human well-being”. Other examples include “development and poverty” and “inequality” as they are cross-cutting in the taxonomy, but in order to find a place to categorise the pages on these subjects we have added them as subcategories under “human well-being”, although this may be altered with further discussion. However, we would hope that the “topics portal”and first layer of their “subcategories” will remain fixed, and layers of secondary subcategories will evolve organically over time.We have also added a separate set of categories to the top-level topics portal to be able to search on geographical areas (Global, regional and country).
Topics page
For simplicity, for now, we have created a “topics”page, where you can click and see all the topics (or categories and subcategories) in a one-page easy to view format. We have manually linked this to pages. However, this could eventually be removed and replaced with the “topics portal” page, once the categorisation is complete.
Topics portal
We also created a category called “topics portal”, which is the very top level category page. Only the top-level categories from the taxonomy will be visible here as subcategories, then you can click through the various further layers of subcategories. All of these layers are generated automatically when you properly categorise a page into a subcategory.
For example, view the topics portal info on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Portals
You can also see what categories and subcategories will look like here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Drinking_culture
(For now, to find the “topics portal” category, you have to go to the full list of categories or do a category search through advanced search).
Categories
Currently, every page is a category, with the name of the page as the name of the category. You can see a full list of all categories by clicking on “categories” which is now found in “getting started”.
All pages are then subcategories of subcategories leading up to the main “topics portal”.
Issues , questions…
Capitalisation
• We have realised we have created duplicate pages with and without capitalisation, so we are trying to identify that and rectify it.
• We need to decide if things will be capitalised or not capitalised, and stick with that as a style
• We also need to decide how we are going to spell well-being – it is in various places Wellbeing, well-being, Well-Being, Human Well-Being etc
Note:
• In the cases where we have duplicate pages, the duplicate still exists, even if we have taken the text off, can we delete that whole page altogether? (With categories it seems you can delete it just by not having any links to that category.) Otherwise what happens is, if you have “Knowledge and understanding” and “Knowledge and Understanding”, if you type it into search wtihout capitalisation, you will come to the first page which is blank.
Pages and categories
• At the moment, we have, for example, a page called ecosystems condition with information on that page. We also have a category called ecosystems condition, which is where we can see the subcategories. Currently
• when you type “ecosystems condition” into the search function, you come to the page. To see all the subcategories you need to click on the subcategory at the bottom. Is this how we want it? This does seem to be how Wikipedia does it.
• Alternatively, we could move the information on the page to the information on the category, so that then you could see the brief information and then the subcategories would be at the bottom of the page. If we do this, would we need to shorten this to just a few lines? Then you can see a few lines of info, a link to “more” and the subcategories all very clearly when you land on that page. HOWEVER, it seems that the search function on the left does not pick up categories, only if you go to the bottom and do “advanced search” and click on categories. So, is there a way to change this, or do we need/want to?
Appearance
• There are different styles of how the pages appear on Wikipedia
• At the moment, we have a “topics portal”where the key categories are, (automatically generated page through category tags). The number of top level categories wont change, so this page could be made into something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Portals
• then, each of the top level categories could become its own portal like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Film
• then, for each of the subcategories within it would be good if all the categories and subcategories were visible on one page with little + and – buttons to open and close all the categories.For example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Entertainment
• or, they could appear in a list like this, but this I think is harder to read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Portals#Philosophy_and_thinking
Random question:
• when we click through pages, howcome the url doesn’t change?
• Also, sometimes when you click through to an external link, sometimes the url becomes that of the external link (as it does with other sites) but sometimes is stays “wikiprogress.org”
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